The Glasgow Witch Trials

12th September 2024
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Lorraine Murray

The Sugar Aristocracy

10th October 2024
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Stephen Mullen

The Watson St Warehouse and Lodging House Fire

14th November 2024
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Dominic D'Angelo

The History of Sikhs in Glasgow

12th December 2024
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Prabhjot Kaur & Shindo Kaur

The Logan Family

9th January 2025
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

John Short

A Strange Affray in Crosshill

13th February 2025
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Ailsa Boyd

The Hampden Collection

13th March 2025
Renfield Centre
260 Bath Street, G2 4JP

Graeme Brown

Lost Glasgow

10th April 2025
Refield Centre
260 Bath Steet, G2 4JP

Norrie Wilson

Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
12th September 2024

held at the Renfield Centre, 260 Bath St. Glasgow

Minutes of an Ordinary Meeting

of The Old Glasgow Club

Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street

on Thursday, 14th September 2024

Attendance: 82 attended, this number included visitors.

Welcome: President McNae welcomed everyone to the first meeting of the 2024/25

session, which was held in the Garnethill Suite.

He reminded us of the safety exits and procedures in the unlikely event of an emergency,

and to double check that mobile phones were switched off or on silent mode.

Weather Check - in the event of inclement weather please check the website for possible

cancellation of meetings.

Apologies: There were apologies for absence from Anna Forrest, Brian Cooper, Margaret

Cooper, Shona Crozer, E and J Clark.

Minutes: President McNae asked if everyone had seen a copy of the Minutes from the

April 2024 meeting, either by email or printed copy, and asked if there were any

amendments.

There being no amendments or matters arising, the minutes were then passed on a

proposal by Cilla Fisher and seconded by Irene Louden.

President’s Report: President McNae mentioned the “spaces” that the Club was

involved in, i.e. Garnethill and Church Sanctuary. A high number of people preferred the

Garnethill Suite, where the September meeting took place, but the Church Sanctuary was

the most preferred venue.

The Tappit Hen bowling night, the relaxed annual club tournament for members and

friends, was enjoyed by all who participated this year, and was won for a second year by

Graham Pascall.

The Summer outing within Glasgow City by vintage bus had been postponed from July

until Saturday 16th September.

Brian D. Henderson discussed the Blue Plaque, which is planned to be placed in

St Enoch Square on the ex GCT Underground Station building to commemorate the site

of the old St Enoch Church, and the last service which took place there on 1st February

1925.

The cost of the plaque will be £1300, Brian invited anyone who wished to make a

donation towards this project to do so. Any amount would be most welcome.

Brian also paid tribute to our past Vice President, Crawford Cassidy, who passed away on

4th August. Crawford was a long time friend of the club who worked closely with Brian,

who is a past club President. His passing is a great loss, and he will be sorely missed by

all. The club’s condolences were passed on to his wife, Elizabeth, and their family.

Tonight’s Speaker - Lorraine Murray : The Glasgow Witch Trials

Mr McNae introduced our speaker for tonight, Lorraine Murray, an archivist, who has a

fascinating tale of the Glasgow Witch Trials.

Lorraine defined what was understood to be a “witch”. Certainly not the traditional green

face, pointy nose, or a boiling cauldron that most of us would have envisaged! Her

interest in this subject may have been triggered by her dressing up a witch for Halloween

when living in Glasgow’s East End.

All of the forthcoming characters would have been considered to have looked “normal”.

A survey on Scottish Witchcraft found that from 1563 until1736, some 3800+ persons had

been accused of witchcraft. Over 320 were named, 84% were female and 605 were

executed (by hanging). The crime was considered to be a Capital offence and almost

certainly meant a death penalty.

The geographical spread of these “crimes” was spread around Scotland, with 14% in the

West of Scotland and 32% in the Lothian area.

Trials were performed by local Crown Courts, Courts of Justiciary, and Circuit Courts.

Our story tonight concerned the “Glasgow Witches” 1621-1700. Six took place in Pollok

(Eastwood Parish) in 1677, and sixteen took place at Craigton (Govan Parish).

King James VI of Scotland wrote a book about witches in Scotland and endorsed the

practice of witch hunting.

Lorraine showed maps explaining the extent of Glasgow City at the time. The Bishop’s

Palace, situated on the site of the present day Glasgow Royal Infirmary, was used as a jail

and also the Tollbooth at Glasgow Cross.

Out-with the city, Renfrewshire held trials at Bargarran (Paisley) 1697-8, and Kilmacolm.

The accused “witches” were normal people in 16th and 17th century patriarchal society,

who had probably done no more than being outspoken, having financial problems,

blasphemy, holding grudges, stolen cattle, or having annoyed their neighbours. Anything

which brought them to the attention of the authorities could be enough to be accused as

a “witch”.

The “prosecution” considered the accusation even if the actual person was not physically

present at the scene of a perceived crime. Their spirit was, and that was enough to

consider them “witches”.

Some famous persons were involved in the persecution of these poor people, Sir George

Maxwell (Pollok), was an avid witch-hunter, who travelled across Scotland to act as

witness in a number of trials.

Victims of such accusations often displayed signs of convulsions, bruises, and what

would now be considered as abuse, both mental and physical. This would also be

enough to consider them “witches”.

Today, in other parts of the world, people are still being accused of Witchcraft!

A lively session of Questions and Answers concluded Lorraine’s talk, during which it

emerged that at the time of the second world war, an individual in the U.K. was accused

of Witchcraft.

The Witchcraft Act of 1735 was not repealed until 22nd June 1951.

Further information can be obtained at

www.archivvisthistoryblog.wordpress.com

Vote of Thanks: was given by Robin Muir, who thanked Lorraine on behalf of the club, for

a most interesting and thoughtful talk, setting a very high bar for our future meetings in

session 2024/2025.

Quiz: Tonight’s quiz was compiled by Ken Benjamin.

Q - Ken showed statues in Elder Park and asked what their connection was.

A - The answer was Govan Shipbuilders.

AOCB: None

Close: There being no further club business, President McNae closed the meeting and

wished all a safe home.

With a reminder that the next meeting was on Thursday 10th October when Stephen

Mullen would present “The Sugar Aristocracy”.

Stuart Little

for Recording Secretary


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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
10th October 2024

held at The Renfield Centre, 260 Bath St. Glasgow

Minutes of an Ordinary Meeting

Of The Old Glasgow Club

Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street

On Thursday, 10th October 2024

Attendance: There were 82 in attendance, this number included visitors.

Welcome: President McNae welcomed everyone to the October ordinary meeting.

He reminded us of the safety exits and procedures in the unlikely event of an emergency.

We were also urged to double check that mobile phones were turned off, or at least on

silent mode.

Weather Check - in the event of inclement weather, please check the website for possible

cancellations of meetings before heading out.

Apologies: There were apologies for absence from Shona Crozer, Margaret McCormick,

Brian D. Henderson, Joyce McnNae, Colin McCormick, Jane Collie and Glen Collie.

Minutes: President McNae asked if everyone had seen a copy of the minutes from the

September 2024 meeting, either by email or a printed copy, and asked if there were any

amendments or matters arising.

There being no amendments or matters arising, the minutes were passed on a proposal

by Robin Muir and seconded by Ken Benjamin.

President’s Report: President McNae intimated that Robin Muir had returned to Scotland

and would resume his duties as Club Director. Robin has been invited to take on the role

of Vice-President, which will be ratified at a special EGM before the start of the November

meeting.

As the club will be celebrating its 125th anniversary in 2025, a blue plaque

commemorating this , and the last service of the St Enoch Church, which took place

on1st February 1925, will be erected to commemorate these events.

The cost of the plaque is £1,300. It would be much appreciated if anyone wishes to

contribute towards the cost. You can contact the treasurer directly. Many thanks.

Tonight’s Speaker - Dr Stephen Mullen: “The Sugar Aristocracy”

President McNae introduced Dr Stephen Mullen, who previously spoke to the club in

2008, debunking the myth that we like to believe about ourselves that, ‘It Wusnae Us’ -

well it wuz - and now he takes it a step further.

Around the 1830’s there was a large import / export trade market of sugar, tobacco and

cotton between the West Indies and Scotland.

Several local individual merchants were involved, and the West of Scotland became an

“Atlantic Hub”, especially after the River Clyde was dredged in 1820 to allow larger ships

access to the city.

The West Indies contributed greatly to the Scottish Industrial Revolution. The golden age

of sugar imports was between 1783-1834.

The trade businesses were passed on through the generations to wives and daughters.

There were many clubs set up, including the Pig Club, Board of Green Cloth, West India

Club 1775-1795, and Glasgow West India Association 1807-1969.

Legal, commercial structures enabled trade to flourish, trade partnerships were formed

and counting houses were situated, for example in Virginia Street and Miller Street.

The Glasgow Herald was a good source of adverts around 1812, indicating plenty of jobs

for skilled labourers etc.

Although there are no official stats before 1841, 37000-46000 Scots made the journey to

Jamaica, Demerara and Grenada being the main destinations.

Stephen highlighted a memorial to Scots merchants at St Andrew’s Kirk in Kingston,

Jamaica, and also put forward the argument that slavery shaped Glasgow’s industrial

development.

Cotton mill workers, for example, he considers, were complacent in the slavery

movement. Scholarships from investments lasted many years later.

Analysis of investments at the peak trade, averaged £7,569 (£6.76 million in todays

money). Estates, properties, industry, commerce and charities were the result of this.

Stephen finished his presentation by asking what should be done today? Changing street

names would be a matter for civic society.

A lively session of Questions and Answers concluded Stephen’s talk.

Quiz: Tonight’s quiz was compiled by Ken Benjamin.

Q - Where is the statue of “Mercury” situated in Glasgow City Centre?

A - The answer is John Street.

The correct answer was drawn from Frank Lovering.

AOCB: None

Close: There being no further club business, President McNae closed the meeting and

wished all a safe home.

With a reminder that the next meeting was on Thursday 14th November when

Dominic D’Angelo will speak about ‘The Watson St. Warehouse & Lodging House Fire’.

Stuart Little

For Recording Secretary


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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
14th November 2024

held at The Renfield Centre, 260 Bath St. Glasgow

Minutes of an Ordinary Meeting

Of The Old Glasgow Club

Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street

On Thursday, 14th November 2024

Attendance: There were 44 in attendance, this number included visitors.

Welcome: President McNae welcomed members and visitors to the November meeting.

He reminded us of the safety exits and procedures in the unlikely event of an emergency.

We were also reminded to check that our mobile phones were on the silent setting or

turned off.

Weather Check - in the event of inclement weather, please check the website for possible

cancellations of meetings before heading out.

Apologies: There were apologies for absence from Shona Crozer, Brian D. Henderson,

Artie Trezise, Cilla Fisher, Kevin Scott, Peter Mortimer, Niall Houser, Graham Pascall,

Jane Collie, Glen Collie, Rosemary Sanachan and Anna Forrest.

Minutes: President McNae asked if everyone had seen a copy of the minutes for the

October 2024 meeting, either by email or a printed copy, and asked if there were

amendments or matters arising.

There being no amendments or matters arising, the minutes were passed on a proposal

by Colin McCormick and seconded by Iain Henderson.

President’s Report: Special E.G.M

1st - This was held to reinstate Robin Muir as a Director since his return to the UK. This

was carried unanimously by those club members present.

2nd - The election of Robin to Vice-President, the post to which he had originally been

appointed. This was also carried unanimously by those club members present.

President McNae reminded us that the 125th Anniversary of the founding of the Old

Glasgow Club would be in 2025 and appealed for members to help make this milestone

possible. We already have Robin Muir and Kevin Scott, asked to help shape the

celebrations.

Further donations for the Blue Plaque were requested. Any donation, no matter how small

would be gratefully received.

Tonight’s Speaker - Dominic D’Angelo: “The Watson Street Warehouse and Lodging

House Fire”

President McNae introduced club member, Dominic D’Angelo to present his talk on the

above subject.

The fire took place on Sunday 19th November, 1905 but Dominic took us back to the

origins of this building and surrounding area. Watson Street, Gallowgate, High Street and

Bell Street.

The warehouse was built by Wm Millar as a furniture store, the then largest in Scotland,

and designed by Alexander (Greek) Thomson.

During the 1850’s the need to provide accommodation for homeless people, due to the

huge increase of immigrants, many of which were Irish. The Glasgow Improvement Trust

having inspected a Model Lodging House (workhouse) in Pentonville, London, opened

Glasgow’s first in Mitchell Street, 1857. Many were subsequently provided throughout the

city.

In due course the building was converted into a lodging house, incorporating an adjacent

slightly smaller one for homeless males, which was separated by McPherson Street.

Small “cabins” were provided with very basic facilities on two floors.

By 1905 it was reported that 80% of the residents were permanent.

To save costs, fire precautions were downgraded and wardens, who were employed to

patrol the premises each night, were gradually reduced in numbers.

On the night of the fire, 368 men were living there, and the combination of gas lighting,

smoking and candles made the likelihood of the fire great.

39 men died, plus one other later. A locked gate on the first floor was subsequently

opened by firemen. Such was the scale of the blaze, it attracted the attention of the

national UK press.

At a later enquiry no one was found directly responsible for the fire.

As late as 1953, Glasgow city still had 19 working lodging houses.

Today the area has been transformed by the clearing of the old buildings and erection of

modern apartments.

A session of questions and answers concluded Dominic’s talk.

On behalf of The Old Glasgow Club, Robin Muir thanked Dominic for his interesting and

well illustrated talk.

Quiz: A view of the Palace of Arts building prompted the question compiled by Ken

Benjamin, of where, when and to what purpose was this built.

The correct answers were Bellahouston Park, 1938 and the Empire Exhibition

respectively. E Crawford was the winner with her correct answer picked out by Dominic.

AOCB: None

Close: There being no further club business, President McNae closed the meeting and

wished all a safe home.

He reminded everyone that our next meeting in December was, “A History of Sikhs in

Glasgow”, and also that the annual Christmas Raffle would take place.

Stuart Little

for The Recording Secretary



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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
12th December 2024

held at The Renfield Centre, 260 Bath St. Glasgow

Minutes of an Ordinary Meeting
of The Old Glasgow Club
Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street
On Thursday, 12th December 2024
Attendance: There were 37 people in attendance, this number includes visitors.
Welcome: President McNae welcomed members and visitors to the last ordinary meeting
of 2024.
We were reminded of the safety exits and procedures in the unlikely event of an
emergency arising. We were also reminded to double check that our mobiles were set to
silent, or switched off.
Weather Check - in the event of inclement weather, especially in the Winter months,
please check the website for possible cancellations of meetings before heading out
the door.
Apologies: There were apologies for absence from Anna Forrest, Shona Crozer, Graham
Pascall, Kevin Scott, Artie Trezise, Cilla Fisher, Ken Benjamin and Derek Wilson
Minutes: President McNae enquired if everyone had seen a copy of the minutes for the
November 2024 ordinary meeting, either by email or a printed copy, and asked if there
were any amendments or matters arising.
There being no amendments or matters arising, the minutes were passed on a proposal
by Julie Clark and seconded by Iain Henderson.
President’s Report: President McNae informed us that the unveiling of the plaque in St
Enoch Square would take place on Monday 3rd February 2025 by the Lord Provost at
12.00 noon.
There was also a reminder to members to make sure that they were giving the Recording
Secretary the correct email address when registering as a few were being sent back as
incorrect / unknown. If you’re not receiving emails it would do no harm to send an email
to the recording secretary. Thank you.
Tonight’s Speakers - President McNae introduced tonight’s speakers Prabhjot Kaur and
Shindo Kaur on ‘The History of Sikhs in Glasgow’.
Prabhjot gave us an overview on the history of Sikhs in Glasgow.
Mainly from the Punjab, immigrants were attracted to the textile manufacturing and
shipbuilding industries, settling in Pollokshields and the south side of Glasgow.
The first Gurdwara in Glasgow was opened on South Portland Street in the early 1950s,
with others following in Octago Street, St Andrews Drive and the West End.
The word “Sikh” means a scholar or student and “Guru” a special teacher or guide.
The values of Sikhs were explained: One God remembered every day, everyone is equal,
work and live honestly, sharing with others, selfless service to those in need.
Present day values include providing food banks, support language lessons, housing
assistance, Punjabi schools and food distribution to local communities.
Shindo outlined the various foods provided both to the Gurdwaras and to outside places,
which includes traditional vegetarian food as well as pizzas and other “West of Scotland
delicacies”.
Mr Peter Mortimer, long time member and former President of the Old Glasgow Club,
gave us an additional talk on immigration to Glasgow.
There were two waves from Northern Ireland in the 1800s, The 1820 wave was made up
of skilled weavers and some seeking seasonal work etc
Irish migrants in the 1840s - 1860s were mostly economic migrants coming from a
starving population, who worked as navvies on the construction of railways and canals.
The Jewish migrants settled in places such as the Gorbals, where some 10,000 eventually
lived by the 1930s.
European migrants were mostly Italian, who were escaping poverty in the late 1800s /
early 1900s. They brought lots of their local delicacies with them and were employed in
the catering industry, including cafes.
Chinese migrants arrived around the 1890s, settling in and around the Garnethill area of
the city. They were mostly employed in the catering industry.
Asians arriving in the 1950s were mostly employed in the public transport sector and
retail.
In the early 20th century a significant number of Lithuanians settled in the central belt,
around the Bellshill and Coatbridge areas, working as miners.
Many Polish people settled in Glasgow / Scotland after the second world war for a
number or reasons, one being that some were based in the Polish army here at that time.
Migration from the Commonwealth countries in Africa and the Caribbean was
encouraged to ease labour shortages in areas like hospitals, public transport, hospitality
etc.
*The vote of thanks to Prabhjot, Kanur and Peter was given by Robin Muir on behalf to
the club, after a few questions were asked from the members present.
Raffle: The annual Christmas raffle took place, with several lucky winners going home
with prizes.
AOCB: None
Close: There being no further business President McNae reminded us of the next meeting
on Thursday 9th January 2025, which will be a talk on the Logan family.
President McNae wished everyone a pleasant Festive Season and a safe journey home.
Stuart Little
for Recording Secretary

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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
9th January 2025

held at The Renfield Centre, 260 Bath St. Glasgow

Minutes of an Ordinary Meeting

of The Old Glasgow Club

Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street

on Thursday, 8th January 2025

Attendance: There were 39 members and visitors in attendance.

Welcome: President McNae welcomed members and visitors to the January meeting and

wished everyone a Happy New Year.

He reminded us of the safety exits and procedures in the unlikely event of an emergency.

We were also reminded to check that our mobile phones were on the silent setting or

turned off.

Weather Check - in the event of inclement weather, please check the website for possible

cancellation of meetings before heading out.

Apologies: There were apologies for absence from Robin Muir, Shona Crozer, Sallie

Marshall, Julie Clark, Edwin Gibb, Kevin Scott, Jim Mearns, Margaret Russell, Jim

Russell, Gaynor MacKinnon, Jane Collie, Glen Collie, Peter Mortimer and Ruaraidh Clark.

Tonight’s Speaker - President McNae introduced tonight’s speaker, Mr John Logan

Short, on “The Logan Family”.

Mr John Logan Short is the son of Buddy Logan and nephew of the late Jimmy Logan.

He began his talk with a detailed history of his Grandfather, Jack Short, who was born in

Dennistoun in 1896. He appeared in productions with the “Dennistoun Amateur Minstrels”

and accompanying silent film shows. Called up in 1914 to the Scottish Horse Regiment,

his service ended in 1918 when he was wounded in the right leg, which subsequently had

to be removed.

Jack’s marriage to Mary (May) Dalziel, a singer, was blessed in 1921 by a son known as

Buddy. Their act became May, Jack and Buddy in the 1930s. A name change around

1940 resulted in them adopting “Logan” as a stage name.

Jack’s son, Buddy went to America and performed with Bing Crosby. His daughter,

Annabelle returned from the USA in 1949 and changed her name to Annie Ross,

becoming well known as an actor Jazz vocalist and Bebop performer, appearing in such

films as “Yanks”.

Jim, their younger son, married Grace, a Yorkshire dancer and began appearing in films

such as “Flood Time” in 1949 with Gordon Jackson.

The family bought the Metropole Theatre in Glasgow’s Stockwell St and the Logan family

were established as well loved Scottish entertainers.

When the Metropole Theatre closed, the other “Metropole” at St George’s Cross was

purchased and was now the home for Jimmy Logan and variety shows. It closed down

and was demolished in the early 1970s due to redevelopment of the area and loss of

population to the suburbs and new towns.

An offshoot of the family ensured that the name Logan lived on in “Loganberry Pies”.

Mr John Short who is a producer, arranger and singer, completed his very amusing and

entertaining evening with a few verses of a song which was sung at the end of the Logan

Family presentations.

Several questions followed and the vote of thanks was made by club member,

Frank Lovering.

Quiz: There were four possible suggestions for the name of the illustrated suspension

bridge. The answer was the South Portland Bridge. The correct entry was picked out,

with Frank being tonight’s winner.

AOCB: None

Close: There being no further club business, President McNae wished all a safe home

and reminded us that the next meeting on Thursday 13th February is “A Strange Affray in

Crosshill” by Dr. Ailsa Boyd.

Stuart Little for Recording Secretary



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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
13th February 2025

held at The Renfield Centre, 260 Bath Street, Glasgow

the minute will be posted when avaiable



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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
13th March 2025

to be held at Renfield Ctr, 260 Bath Street, Glasgow

the minute will be posted when avaiable

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Minutes of Ordinary Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
10th April 2025

to be held at Renfield Ctr, 260 Bath Street, Glasgow

the minute will be posted when avaiable


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Minutes of the Annual General Meeting of the Old Glasgow Club
8th May 2025

to be held at Glasgow City Chambers

The minute of this meeting will be posted when it is available


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